Thursday, May 24, 2007

And the Lord said...

...Thou shalt open a thread upon the subject of www.thehoodinternet.com.

6 comments:

Victor9000 said...
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Victor9000 said...

Every music discussion, if given enough time, must grapple with this question: Can a mashup really be great? Or is the pleasure associated with the mashup merely novelty and based on recognition (akin to the pleasure of getting a not-that-funny Proust reference on The Simpsons) rather than based on its resonance, or whatever else describes what we experience when listening to a great track.

What say you all? Is there such a thing as a mashup that transcends the simple pleasures and reaches some higher plane?

cold4thestreets said...

I am really hesitant to reject a form altogether. Are mashups capable of greatness? Indeed. Excelling in the genre is key. While a lot of mashups are crap--a function of internet democratization--that doesn't mean that "Smells Like Teen Booty" wasn't inspired, and why can't that work speak to the worth of the genre as a whole?

Though I don't necessarily care for romantic comedies, I appreciate distinctions in genre enough to recognize _Four Weddings and a Funeral_ as a pretty good movie. I think mashups deserve the same benefit of the doubt, though we have to wade through so much crap before having our faith in them validated.

hemanzero said...

That said, Mr. Streets, I still feel that there is a natural limit inherent in the genre. Not to go this route so early, but take the Grey Album. Is this a mash up? I think the mere fact that it is composed solely of two different entities doesn't necessarily place it in that genre. Indeed, if it did, hip hop (which I understand that you barely understand) has been doomed to mediocrity since the invention of the sample. I am just trying to say that if excelling in the genre means leaving the genre behind, we have a problem.

Victor9000 said...

hemanzero - please refrain from ad hominen attacks until this blog clears its fragile infancy.
Also, I'm not sure what your definition of a mashup is if it does not include The Grey Album. My understanding is that a mashup is an attempt to combine nearly all elements of two pieces of music, rather than incorporating only a sample from one piece into another.
With that in mind, greatness in mashups should be found not only in how excellent it sounds, but in the degree of difficulty in working the two together. So laying aggressive lyrics over ballads is difficult, as is combining songs with different tempos - tehhoodinternet seems to accept these challenges, with predictably mixed results.
That said, what is the greatest mashup so far?
Preliminary nominations:
2 Many DJs (album)
A-Trak - Dirty South Dance (album)
Grizzly Bear/The Knife - Heartbeats/Knife

cold4thestreets said...

Oh, victor9000, I can take ad hominem attacks from someone who until his mid-20's had never heard Modern English's "Melt with You." Boo-ya, bitches!